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> Blame Google, for its algorithms that are directly shaping our communications and culture. Hell, blame all tech companies that use algorithms to determine culture

> Mozilla, and every other website owner, must play the game

No. Mozilla and every other contributor still have a responsibility for what they put out there. Google and Facebook messing up the overall environment doesn't let individual contributors off the hook.

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Hating the game vs. hating the player.

We all have to do things in our own self-interest, especially when there are higher powers bearing down upon us.

They're not off the hook, but they're not the biggest fish that needs to be fried. Going after them won't solve anything except the need to vent one's own emotions.

The cycle will continue to repeat for other websites and other people. We've established that it happens often, and we've even established the root cause. Idling on "who's at fault and what should their punishment be" is just that: idling.

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Severely off-topic but this is also how I feel about battling racism in America, but the general notion of systems vs specific agents was strongly reinforced for me by the Slovenian political writer Slavoj Zizek in a book of his after 9/11 wherein he remarks that Left politics were becoming more and more about targeting specific agents when the processes that motivate and constrain those agents (as well as our own) are so much more anonymous that its difficult for people to even parse the significance of.