[coldtea]

>The current benchmark for climate change problems is "were things different 10-15 years ago".

Only if one has their head in the sand. Historically higher temperatures year after year, massive loss of arctic ice, etc.

All of those things weren't "always changing", except if you go back to thousands to millions of years. And even then, they didn't get there with the same rate of change we have now.

[me_me_me]

Yes exactly, all evidence point to some alarming patterns. The hottest year in recorded history, was it 7/10 were in the last 10 year.

Climate changes over hundred thousands years.

The rapid industrialization caused rapid heating in hundred years! This is a fact and trying to dispute it is akin to sticking you head in sand.

Anyhow the whole line of its natural so we should ignore it is crazy to me. Cancer is natural and yet people treat it. It doesn't matter if global warming is, or isn't natural, or its a mix. We need to stabilize it to suit us before we go back to having total population counted in millions or so.