[malvosenior]

That's too bad. Out of the other $1T US companies (Apple, Amazon, Microsoft) Google seems by far the most user hostile. I would say Microsoft once held this position but lost their edge to be truly damaging. On the other hand Google:

* Sells ads for a living

* Pushes AMP

* Removes features from Chrome that allow you to block ads

* Android littered with spyware

* Kills products randomly

* Kills platforms randomly (leaving developers high and dry)

* Horrible hiring culture cargo-culted by lesser Googles

* Privacy concerns with Google Home product

* Introduces politics into the workplace

* Introduces politics into their products

* Sexual harassing execs get big payouts

* Infantalized workplace culture

* Produces increasingly awful search results

* More...

[panarky]

Microsoft, Amazon and Apple also sell ads.

AMP may tie publishers into their standard, but as a user I'd much prefer an AMP page to a dog slow publisher page on mobile.

Despite all the hype and FUD, ad blockers still work just fine in Chrome.

iOS has plenty of hidden spy apps, masque attacks, and iCloud backup attacks.

Apple, Amazon and Microsoft all routinely deprecate products.

Plenty of privacy concerns with Amazon and Microsoft. Remains to be seen if Apple caves on the Pensacola iPhones.

Not sure how workplace politics or culture affects the user experience at all, sounds like you might be confusing your own prejudices with users at large.

Microsoft censors their products in China, Google does not.

Amazon sells counterfeit products, Google does not.

Apple refuses to interoperate with industry standards, Google does not.

[malvosenior]

> Microsoft, Amazon and Apple also sell ads.

Not as their main or even major business lines.

> AMP may tie publishers into their standard, but as a user I'd much prefer an AMP page to a dog slow publisher page on mobile.

As a user I couldn't disagree more. When I go to a URL I want the content behind that URL. I don't read bloated garbage sites anyway, but even there I'd prefer the real site to the AMP Google-ware.

> iOS has plenty of hidden spy apps, masque attacks, and iCloud backup attacks.

Hidden spy apps? Would love to hear your source on that. None of these compare to the absolutely toxic Android ecosystem.

> Apple, Amazon and Microsoft all routinely deprecate products.

Nothing these companies has done rivals Google here. How many Google chat products have there been?

> Plenty of privacy concerns with Amazon and Microsoft. Remains to be seen if Apple caves on the Pensacola iPhones.

Google's business model is removing privacy.

> Not sure how workplace politics or culture affects the user experience at all, sounds like you might be confusing your own prejudices with users at large.

What prejudices would those be? I didn't even state a position other than they inject politics everywhere, which is undeniable.

> Microsoft censors their products in China, Google does not.

Irrelevant.

> Amazon sells counterfeit products, Google does not.

Amazon sells physical products, Google sells ads.

> Apple refuses to interoperate with industry standards, Google does not.

This is true about Apple but it's also true about Google. RSS anyone? Gmail's embrace/extend/extinguish of email protocols. AMP.

I also think it's funny that my post went from +8 to flagged overnight. How many Google employees does it take to flag a popular post? Only you offered any sort of rebuttal to my statements but obviously many agree.

[yladiz]

While you may be technically right in many of these points, what you say misses or purposefully deflects points from the parent. For example:

> [Google] Sells ads for a living

>> Microsoft, Amazon and Apple also sell ads.

Parent is not stating that the companies do not sell ads, parent is stating that Google primarily makes its money by selling ads. Microsoft, Amazon, and Apple do not.

> [Google] Kills products randomly

> [Google] Kills platforms randomly (leaving developers high and dry)

>> Apple, Amazon and Microsoft all routinely deprecate products.

There is a difference between deprecating and "killing" as the parent puts it, and unlike Apple, Amazon, and Microsoft, Google has a website dedicated to its many killed products [1], primarily because Google has a pretty bad reputation for killing a product randomly without much notice.

Beyond those, you're being disingenuous with at least these two points:

> Microsoft censors their products in China, Google does not.

> Amazon sells counterfeit products, Google does not.

You're technically correct but that's because 1) Google products aren't accessible in China, and 2) Google doesn't really sell physical products like Amazon does (if you don't count some devices like phones). That's like saying, assuming Elmer's Glue isn't in China, that "Microsoft censors their products in China, Elmer's Glue does not."

1: https://killedbygoogle.com

[flokie]

MSFT has deprecated 346 products to Google's 194... https://www.versionmuseum.com/history-of/discontinued-micros...