[markmiro]

You're right, most successful no-code tools are for non-programmers, and programmers shouldn't be the ultimate litmus test.

I also believe that if a coding tool will make me more productive, I'll use it, even if it's not a library or a language. Right now the visual tools are limited, but it doesn't have to be that way.

I've used Flash, Windows WPF apps, those visual tools for making apps in xCode, and others. I think there's something to having visual tools for building apps. I think it's clear that UI doesn't need to be in code. Maybe state machine logic shouldn't be written in code either. Maybe high-level software architecture constraints shouldn't be in code.