[manigandham]

> "I've never released a product that didn't have bugs and tradeoffs"

Bugs are not known flaws, otherwise you should fix them. What's the warning, that nothing is guaranteed to be perfect?

> "advertising deliberately gives you wrong or incomplete information."

Incorrect. False advertising is illegal. Trade-offs are subjective to you. What's considered complete information is subjective to you.

Consumers benefit from the knowledge of that product existing and its features. Whether that product works for you is your choice. If you need more info then go research it. Nobody is going to magically tell you what's best for your life, that's your responsibility.

[kerkeslager]

> Bugs are not known flaws, otherwise you should fix them.

That's not reality. Sometimes you don't have budget, sometimes there isn't a clear solution, etc.

> Incorrect. False advertising is illegal.

Haha! Okay buddy. Not sure what country you live in where that even pretends to be true, but our US companies are happy to break laws in that country to lie to you.

> Whether that product works for you is your choice. If you need more info then go research it. Nobody is going to magically tell you what's best for your life, that's your responsibility.

Sure, but let's not pretend that advertisers are our helpful friends here. They are our opponents, whose misinformation we have to constantly combat in order to find useful information to make informed decisions.

[manigandham]

So the problem is companies that knowingly put out products with bugs and lie in their ads?

Your concern isn't about advertising then, it's just shady companies.

[kerkeslager]

Is there any other kind?

[manigandham]

You know there is, but if you really think every company is shady then there's nothing to discuss anyway.