[wippler]

I think the post is unnecessarily harsh on both Nokia and Microsoft. Windows Phone is now a lot better and is comparable with iOS/Android, only thing it is lacking is apps.

Nokia making this decision much late in the game clearly knows that Microsoft also came late to the game. It needs MS as much as MS needs Nokia. Together with huge marketing muscle of MS, they can surely make something out of the partnership.

[silvestrov]

Missing apps is like being BeOS: you can be the best OS in the world, but without apps you are not going to sell.

App-less, you are nothing in this product segment.

Besides, their Mac support is not that great, no support for syncing calendars. This is not 90'ies anymore, you need Mac support at this time to get the teenagers and cool people to use your product.

[neutronicus]

I don't think it's the same at all.

All I use on my Android phone is e-mail, maps, the browser, and general phone stuff - honestly, I would trade the entire app store for a little more reliability and a better touch screen.

[bad_user]

That's why I bought an iPhone; even though I'll never buy a Macbook or other Apple products.

Being able to sync contacts / calendar back and forth to my Google Apps account is priceless.

[dingle_thunk]

The Windows Phone does this. It also integrates those contacts with the status updates, contact details and pictures from your Facebook, Hotmail, YMail & Exchange accounts

[Johngibb]

From everything I've read, WP7 is really good. However, I think that it's a huge fault of Microsoft that it just hasn't been marketed well. I've wanted to try one... I go to Best Buy, and all they have is one non-functional demo unit (the kind with just a picture of a screenshot). Can you ever imagine Apple launching an iPhone, and not having working versions of it in their store to try out?

I'm skeptical, but hopefully Nokia will give them enough exposure and allow people to actually get their hands on a WP7 phone.

[neutronicus]

Heh. I have a macbook pro.

Android does the gmail / google calendar sync fine. If there's one thing Android has never messed up, it's that. My Android phone messes enough stuff up often enough that I do wish I had an iPhone instead.

[wazoox]

Works fine with android or WebOs too. What's the point?

[bad_user]

Second sentence is unrelated to the first one; I was in a hurry.

My wife has an LG Optimus One (e.g. cheap Android). It's really nice for the price paid, but she has had problems with it.

I tried to say that the iPhone provides the best experience (out of the box at least), and if you want an Android, you should check out the ratings on that product because quality varies.

[absconditus]

The fact that you and some others do not care about apps is irrelevant. Apps are clearly important to a large portion of the market.

[dingle_thunk]

Apps are clearly not important to another large portion of the market.

[jonhohle]

Just asking, but wouldn't the iPhone meet that need?

[neutronicus]

"a little more reliability" includes the network. So, until recently, no.

But, yes, I would love to own an iPhone on Verizon.

[jawee]

I found webOS to be superior to iOS and Android in most ways, only to be hindered by poor hardware and marketing. WP7 will not take off just because it is objectively better in some ways.

[bad_user]

     Windows Phone is now a lot better

Compared to the disaster that was WinMo 6, sure.

Thing is, Android / iOS cover pretty much every need of the smartphone market right now. The iPhone a well made, high-end, kick ass, user-friendly and kind of expensive product with tons of third-party support available.

Android on the other hand is already selling big on cheaper phones, and although it is so popular and all the tools you'll ever need are open-source and well-made, still it doesn't have so many quality apps like iOS. But it's getting there.

This is not like the XBox versus the PS3. PS3 took a long time to market and was considerably more expensive (it has been gaining significant ground btw).

This is also not like Windows versus Mac OS or OS/2. At that time Windows was the cheaper and the more versatile one.

It is also not like IExplorer versus Netscape. Microsoft doesn't have much leverage on this industry, besides a handful of patents. And phone makers aren't stupid. They've been burnt already by mobile operators.

This is too bad actually. My first mobile phone was a Nokia 3310, which I loved. Now the brand is dying.