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by i_dursun 2345 days ago
Rust is not a Mozilla product.

It is heavily used at and funded by Mozilla but they have almost zero influence over the direction of the language.

Actually, this kind of perception is the reason that they have been recently talking about forming a Rust Foundation.

http://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2020/01/09/towa...

3 comments

Rust is not a Mozilla product, but it was certainly initiated by Mozilla. Its momentum and governance have long since been with its community.

I think starting Rust, not Firefox, will be what Mozilla is remembered for in 50 years.

> Rust is not a Mozilla product.

And yet from your own citation:

> Mozilla has from the get-go attempted to create an independent governance structure and to solicit involvement from other companies, because we know this makes Rust a better language for everyone.

It seems like they have a lot of influence over the language, and other things. Like, whether there's independent governance or not. I'm happy they're looking for collaborators, but lets not pretend that founder status comes with zero influence.

> Rust is not a Mozilla product.

Would Rust be where it is today if it wasn't for Mozilla's clout?

That is really a separate issue, if I’m recalling correctly, there is a team of Rust devs who specifically are employees by Mozilla Corporation. Also, even with an attempt at ‘team’ independence, Mozilla still owns the Rust trademark and the payables for Rust, things like servers for crates.io, etc are also paid by Mozilla Corp. My point was if an executive with only revenue concerns looks at Rust and sees a team which is not just helping Mozilla, but who attempt to help the industry as a whole, including competitors, it is conceivable that cutting those expenses is an option to pursue. I do not think this is particularly likely (I would assume the expenditure on Rust is minimal compared to the salary and benefits of 70 employees), I was just exploring the rabbit hole the GP comment sent me down.