[redleader9345]

Just commentary on the engineer turned manager narrative. Please forgive if it is out of place. Should I delete it?

[sanderjd]

Nah sorry for calling you out like that, it's slightly off topic but a fine rant. For what it's worth, I agree with many of your points, but hope we can do better as the profession continues to mature.

[0xdeadbeefbabe]

Yes, and delete Dilbert too as it makes this engineering approach to management seem more complex than we'd like it to be.