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by yig 2345 days ago
2016 HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12381791

2014 HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7149006
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dang 2345 days ago
2018 too: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17744150
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