[TomMarius]

Why would you have 20 person standups?

[djKianoosh]

because government project? although I imagine this happens in non-gov settings too, this is just my experience.

Here's the reason: managers are so spread thin that they don't want to be in 5-10 standups all morning, so they combine around organizational structures rather than product(s)/deliverable(s). Another case of the software delivery matching org structure...

[TomMarius]

Of course the next question in line is "why is a manager involved in the standup?"

> because government project? although I imagine this happens in non-gov settings too, this is just my experience.

Why not split into smaller work groups? What's the advantage of 20 person teams?

[djKianoosh]

organically this is what happens to actually get things done. but mind you, these small work groups are successful despite the large standups. life finds a way...