[malvosenior]

There were definitely young women around when Hawking was there. I don't know if they were underage, but it I don't think it's safe to say Hawking knew nothing. By all accounts the island was full of girls and decorated with photographs of nude photos of them (some underage).

You can see Hawking surrounded by women on the island here:

https://cloverchronicle.com/2019/07/24/stephen-hawking-pictu...

[jdminhbg]

> You can see Hawking surrounded by women on the island here:

I assumed from the description this was going to look like Stephen Hawking at the Playboy Mansion, but instead it's him at a bbq with two middle aged men and two middle aged women, and him in a submarine with a woman whose back is to the camera so you can't tell her age apart from not being gray-haired.

[svachalek]

It's an interesting Rorschach test. I can see all kinds of things going on here, or nothing at all. The expression on the face of the nearest woman has a serious "not amused" vibe to it no matter how I try to look at the situation though.

[tzs]

She's got the same kind of name tag on as the guy to her right. I'd guess that they are both attendees of the conference that was going on at the neighboring island.

That could well be her "I'm a theoretical physicist presenting at an important conference, and the only reason that news photographer is including me in the photo is because I'm sitting at the same table as Stephen Hawking" look.

[jsjohnst]

The woman on the left is I believe someone I’ve seen frequently in photos with him. Not sure of her name or relationship to him.

[leoc]

(Odd website, though. It looks like something being run by an intel agency.)

[hackinthebochs]

Why would a billionaire being surrounded by young woman be a red flag? Being a billionaire is enough to explain their presence without any hint of coercion.

[malvosenior]

Because it was supposed to be a professional event and that's not even remotely professional? There's a second hand account in this thread by someone who knows people who went to the island and were propositioned for sex there.

It's unprofessional at best but as we know know, many of these girls were sex trafficking victims and underage.

It's also known that Epstein's island residence was decorated with pictures of underage nude girls and a giant nude painting of Ghlisaine Maxwell. So yeah, I'd say there are quite a few red flags there.

[hackinthebochs]

I think the concept of "professional event" has changed considerably in the last few decades. So judging what should or shouldn't have been known by the guests based on modern standards is a mistake.

As far as nude pictures and paintings, were they clearly underage and non artistic? There's a lot of post hoc reasoning by those who want to spread blame around that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

[malvosenior]

This wasn't a "few decades ago" it was 2015. The standards for professional events have not changed since then.

[hackinthebochs]

I wasn't talking about the most recent ones after his convictions and after people should have known to avoid him.