[lurker2823]

Maybe US should just leave the region where it isn't welcome. Also, if this were to turn into a conventional war, I predict the US would suffer massive losses, unless they resort to using tactical nukes. The US hasn't been on the winning side of a war since WW2.

[burfog]

The US has won every war as much as was desired, and it will continue to do so. Every supposed "loss" occurs in DC politics, not as a result of inability on the battlefield.

[lurker2823]

sure, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea (not to mention the countless 'anti-terrorism' strikes throughout Africa), all shining examples of 'winning'. Much like Charlie Sheen.....

I feel sorry for the poor fools who blindly follow the drumbeat of war and think they are doing a patriotic duty to their nation / meat grinder, which chews them up and spits them out once they are done with them.

But hey, Raytheon stocks are up!

[burfog]

"as much as was desired"

We decided how much winning we wanted, and we did it. Unfortunately for the soldiers and the taxpayers, the politicians have a limited appetite for winning.

Vietnam is a fine example. We limited the amount of ammo! We didn't mine the harbor until very late in the war. The politicians ran the war as they desired, winning as much as they wanted to win.

In all those wars, the USA very obviously had the option for a quick and complete victory. It just wasn't done. Thank politics.