[moralsupply]

How do you know these services do better than the market given that they are monopolistic (as in: the government doesn't allow for competition)?

[xtian]

Because the US has for-profit healthcare and it’s worse on all societal-scale metrics than nationalized healthcare in other countries. And we had for-profit fire departments and the result was poor people’s houses burned down. For-profit utilities cut maintenance of essential infrastructure to hit quarterly goals. For-profit education reinforces class hierarchy, enables grift, and results in superficial curriculum tailored for mercurial “employer demand.”

[moralsupply]

Do you mean "for-profit" with competition, or without it? Were people voluntarily paying for those services?

If it's "for-profit", monopolistic, and run by the government, it means:

1. your money is taken away from you through taxes

2. a service you may or may not want is implemented

3. a 'target' for 'profitability' is set, which makes no sense given there's no price system directly attached to the services

4. 'targets' are delivered by cutting edges so that public workers demonstrate enough competency to justify pay raises

[xtian]

For profit with competition.