[sc4les]

Australia is burning. Animal is not only reason for climate change and species extinction but one of the big ones that we need to eliminate if we want to have a chance at stopping this madness. I'd stand up for the future of my children and grand children, so why do you value your taste pleasure more?

[efiecho]

If climate change is your worry, then you probably shouldn't have children and grand children, as overpopulation is the single greatest cause of climate change.

[sc4les]

That’s a ridiculous and stupid argument. Do you really believe that or are you just triggered because your believes are challenged?

[sc4les]

Well a company offers a food you’re not forced to eat and that was enough for you to state your discomfort of people simply showing you the result of your actions. Not much more to say really

[efiecho]

You seems to be the only one who is triggered. I don't see where my beliefs are challengede.

[geddy]

And why is that? Is it because it's more people born.. that will consume meat?

What a nonsense argument. "I won't inconvenience myself because it's not the BEST way to help the environment and the human race." In that case, I can't afford a Tesla, so I'll keep driving my F-350.

[efiecho]

You know absolutely nothing about how I do or do not inconvenience myself, it's your comparison that is nonsense. But if you can't understand why overpopulation is a huge problem, then there is no reason to continue this discussion.

[8note]

i'd say more like you're give the choice between switching to the Tesla or stopping using plastic straws, and you're picking the plastic straws option. (and you're able to afford said Tesla. it's not like either option of eating different food or not having kids is unaffordable)

[bart_spoon]

That's kind of like saying that the majority of people who get cancer are old people, so we can reduce cancer rates by dying young.

The issue isn't strictly overpopulation. Its overpopulation combined with the amount of consumption. You can solve this either by reducing the population, or reducing consumption, or both. For a lot of people, there are compelling ethical, economical, and personal reasons for wanting to have children or at least avoiding restricting other people's desire for children. So in that case it makes more sense to reduce consumption.

[efiecho]

> So in that case it makes more sense to reduce consumption.

And for others it makes more sense to not having children. As you write, it's also about "personal reasons".

[bart_spoon]

I don't disagree.

[satyrnein]

Typically people worry about climate change FOR their children and grandchildren.

What good is an empty planet?