[imeron]

16k each, and Waymo has 4 on it's cars? I think Elon was right to not care about LIDAR until the price point is right.

[reitzensteinm]

Elon was right for Tesla, but that doesn't mean the economics don't work for Waymo, even as they continue to improve.

A $100k fully autonomous taxi would print money over its service life (right now they have remote safety drivers on standby).

The question is how quickly they can expand their currently tiny geofenced area.