[buboard]

In politics , the best manipulation campaign is to have a vision that moves people. Why are american Dems stirring again the CA pot? It s frankly bad publicity at this moment to blame everything to the evil bad actors. It may appeal to a small part of their voter base, but conspiracies usually alienate moderate/undecided ppl

[SpaceManNabs]

Conspiracies tend to have the connotation as stories believed by a small segment of the population hoping to have access to secret knowledge that tends to be wrong and based in narrative rather than facts.

Is this how you are using the word? Where are the lack of facts in how CA melded elections?

[buboard]

> are the lack of facts in how CA melded elections

CA's job was to meddle in elections, the question is if it's effective. there is very little evidence that it worked.

[n4r9]

What would constitute evidence that it worked?

[buboard]

I don't know

[schmilk]

This really seems like a burden of proof situation. If a bad actor is demonstrably trying to be a bad actor, then they are a bad actor, and we should make a big deal out of it. Saying "yes, they are bad actors, but can you prove they actually accomplished their goal?" just enables more bad actors. Perhaps the burden of proof that a bad actor did not accomplish their goal should be on the bad actor. Otherwise more and more will spring up, and we'll just throw our hands up saying, "meh, we can't prove they were effective".

[buboard]

misdiagnosis usually ends in disaster