[kerpele]

I think the big issue with companies like Facebook is not that their development model moves too quickly for them to be able to react to their issues but that they simply don’t care. Facebook has known about the issues with privacy, hyper targeted advertising etc for years. You don’t need to move very fast to react to a fundamental issue in that timeframe.

[kinkrtyavimoodh]

Or perhaps they do know exactly how much consumers care about these issues (spoiler: not much), and are simply building for their consumers. The few hundred / thousand people flooding Twitter and opinion columns don't speak for the 2 billion people who use Facebook.

[ori_b]

You call it an issue. We call it a revenue stream.

[asveikau]

And here's another point where we may disagree: money is not a thing to be worshiped at the cost of everything else.

[ori_b]

You may disagree, but where are you getting the resources to push your position?

[asveikau]

I think my position is already a majority one. Go out in the street and ask people if money is the most important thing in life.

[ori_b]

Now, go find one of those people that isn't a willing revenue stream for surveillance capitalism.

[crdoconnor]

Areas where big companies don't care are often ripe for new disruptive products. Google's success can largely be attributed to building a feature that the 400 pound gorilla of the time (yahoo) didn't give a fuck about.

[hrktb]

consumers need to care as well, and that is/was the issue for privacy or ethical behavior. I hope we got passed that point, but it sure takes a damn long time.