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Agreed, especially given the 2-4K you have to plonk down on some of these things. They sound great, but I haven't yet used them. The money thing is a barrier, and I'm a one-car family looking for options.

For that kind of money, you're buying a pretty solid scooter or a cheap car. Nevermind if you want a cargo bike or Bakfiets. Having the infrastructure / city planning to make this worthwhile is definitely an important second part. I'm not going to park a $4K bike just anywhere.