[senectus1]

its interesting in that, you can happily hurl big rocks at people in castles via catapults while being unable to see what /who you're hitting and be perfectly safe, yet you might not (I know i dont) have an issue with it like you (and I) do with drones...

its basically the same thing. just an upscale in range, and really safe distance is safe distance... doesn't really change the situation when you add more 00's to the distance.

[boomboomsubban]

Iran is not sieging our castle, that is the key difference. We are the aggressor, even if the acts of the other side are morally repulsive

[true_religion]

In his example, we are the aggressor too as we have the catapult and they have the castle.

[Jon_Lowtek]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Saudi_Arabia_prox...

[boomboomsubban]

Saudi Arabia is a US client kingdom, their proxy war would not be happening if Iran was still a US subject.

[TechBro8615]

They were sieging our embassy...

[freeflight]

Many people are getting the time-line of events completely wrong.

The embassy protests (call it riots if you like) were a response to the US killing at least 25 of them [0], which was a response to them supposedly being responsible for the death of US contractor [1].

There were no casualties during the embassy protests, yet the consequence of that was the US killing QS, and other PMU leadership, near Baghdad airport.

Now some people are peddling stories about how those two were supposedly not connected at all, and the US allegedly had intelligence how QS was planning to attack US Americans all over the world, which comes across as a bit of FUD to distract from the reality that the US just assassinated the general of another nation.

[0] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50951742

[1] https://edition.cnn.com/2019/12/27/politics/iraq-rocket-atta...

[gremlinsinc]

In basically their territory. Why do we need a presence or embassy there? Why waste the money? Does Canada have an embassy in every nation? Does France? What about Sweden and Denmark?

If we absolutely need a presence why not have coalition embassies? A single office w/ 1 member from each coalition country, and equal soldiers from all countries and diplomatically making unilateral decisions as a group not based on any country's agenda.

[jancsika]

its interesting in that, you can happily guide drones to kill people at great distances while being unable to see what /who you're hitting and be perfectly safe, yet you might not (I know i dont) have an issue with it like you (and I) do with triggering self-replicating nanobots anonymously through the internet to target victims based on a secret set of metadata ruled by a secret set of laws...

its basically the same thing. just an upscale in precision, and really safe distance is safe distance... doesn't really change the situation when you add more dangerous technology to the mix.

[senectus1]

heh, you make my point forward looking.

I think I agree.

[liquidise]

Point taken, though i would argue that somewhat-blindly hurling rocks at walls is materially different from intentionally ending a specific life from across the world.