[erentz]

Going from history there’s going to be a lot of democrats hand wringing about “process” but the Democrats and the media will still fall in behind an escalation to war. They’re already doing it. Media are already unquestionably repeating claims of the pentagon that Suleimani was planning attacks. Calls against war will be called unpatriotic and largely silenced. This feels quite scary. I was hoping for an eventual end to war.

[IfOnlyYouKnew]

Sure, and many will use this false quivalence to excuse voting for Republicans. When they are now (again) starting a war in the middle east.

In between, the Obama administration managed to sign a deal that effectively ended the nuclear program and markedly reduced Iran's aggressiveness in the region.

But sure, the everyone-is-bad shtick gets so many points for contrarianism it easily compensates for the lack of truth.

(Indictment-of-the-public-sphere-aside: It's quite funny (but potentially deadly) that this cynical worldview has long gained the upper hand. Everyone still pretend to have heard it for the tenth time that day because they also like to see themselves as the rebel with thier own brain.)

Unfortunately, Warren, oder Sanders, or AOC, or whoever will be the next democratic President won't have the option of a negotiated settlement anymore: 200 years of the US' word having meaning beyond the duration of the administration giving it are gone. Lost the world's trust, and thereby access to such transactions, all for what? Because that plan that was essentially what Trump says he wants now just happened to be associated with the wrong guy.

[na85]

>I was hoping for an eventual end to war.

No US President has ever lost a run for re-election during wartime. I think we all knew a new war was coming this year.

[throwaway5752]

This is such a infuriatingly off the mark comment. This isn't domestic politics. This is a regional power in the most geopolitically important location in the world. The can strike the oilfields of the entire Person Gulf. The can close the Strait of Hormuz. They have a large modern military, large on-the-ground intelligence service in the region, and advanced offensive military cyber capabilities. This is profoundly bigger than the US Presidential election. It is a bad sign that this is so many peoples' take.

This is real war, the likes of which we haven't seen since Vietnam or the Korean peninsula. Professionals have dreaded this for a long time, and that was with extraordinarily more competent executive function.

[na85]

What I'm suggesting is that had this flashpoint not occurred, your commander in chief would have found another.

[oliwarner]

> This isn't domestic politics... It is a bad sign that this is so many peoples' take.

This was an active choice to execute a foreign non-combatant on third-party soil. It doesn't get much more political than that.

Your comment would suggest that Trump has no horse in this race but GP isn't incorrect that this choice he made pulls a lot of oxygen from the trash fires at the other parts of his administration.