[jmull]

> Not sure why you are getting downvoted.

I don't know why anyone downvotes as they do, but the previous post is an irrelevant argument about semantics, so in my opinion it deserves to be downvoted.

Actually, now that I think of it, it's a little worse than that. The OP is being criticized for not understanding how to debug or improve the performance of their dependency while actively engaged in figuring out how to debug and improve the performance of their dependency. (People respond with questions, OP provides substantive answers, there's a back-and-forth and OP forms an idea it's related to a deeply nested schema, and so on.)

[CharlesW]

> The OP is being criticized for not understanding how to debug or improve the performance of their dependency…

Nothing I said is a critique of Ben Awad, the Twitter OP. I assume we've all used dependencies that we don't completely understand, no?

To rephrase my point: The dark side of semi-opaque dependencies like ORMs, application frameworks, etc. is that when the magic doesn't work, one may not be able to easily determine where to start in order to address issues.

EDIT: Removed unnecessary paragaph to simplify response.

[jsjohnst]

The person who wrote the “creative” title here on HN for the Twitter url they submitted is not the same person having the issue with performance and posting for help on Twitter.