[freehunter]

Which leads nicely back to my statement of

>What I hear from the Redux devs does not in any way line up with what I heard from Brad Traversy or Stephen Grider

This perception will continue (and only get worse) the more junior devs are educated in trainings/bootcamps that require Redux in your first project. This is the reason so many people have such negative reactions to Redux, they're not yet comfortable with React (which is a new way of thinking by itself) before Redux is added into the mix and it gets very overwhelming very quickly.