[ogre_codes]

How many tens of thousands of Tesla Model 3s have been sold?

That ONE Tesla failed with fewer than 6,000 miles is not surprising or remotely concerning.

No, I haven't had a car fail with fewer than 6,000 miles. But if I'd bought a Model 3, that would almost certainly still be the case as well because of the tens of thousands sold to date this appears to be fairly uncommon or we'd have heard about it by now.

I'm not certain what the big deal about it failing "While Parked" is. A breakdown is a breakdown.

[aaomidi]

It might be that we're not hearing about other cases.

I have around 20K miles on my Model 3 and so far haven't dealt with any service/maintenance. I took the car to les schwab to make sure the tires are good, and that's been it.

Shit happens to cars, they're usually the most complicated piece of technology the average person owns. It takes time to perfect a production line and service line, but Tesla really needs to have a perfect support line and it's unfortunate they don't.

[Operyl]

I can't really believe we're not hearing about other cases. The media absolutely _loves_ to crap on Tesla any chance they can get for any reason, their fault or otherwise.

[romaaeterna]

> That ONE Tesla failed with fewer than 6,000 miles is not surprising or remotely concerning.

Yeah, it "just happened" to be one owned by Car and Driver. If they are seeing this sort of failure with review models, you can be sure that the real failure rate is big.

[ogre_codes]

How can I be sure? Why would the other owners keep quiet about it, some grand conspiracy?

Everything that happens with Tesla gets amplified 10 fold. If the failure rate was "big", I'm certain we'd have heard about it by now.

Regardless, this isn't a special review unit, C&D leased the Tesla from the dealer like any other schmuck, it was just luck of the draw. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a29515368/tesla-model-3-lo...

[perl4ever]

"Everything that happens with Tesla gets amplified 10 fold"

Well, one reason people do that is because of the ridiculous things everybody has been saying for years - like how electric cars are inherently way more reliable than ICE vehicles.

It's like how certain people get enraged over short sellers influencing stock prices, and somehow it doesn't occur to them that way more information is distorted in favor of public companies.

And sure, there's no reason to think it was a special unit, but that's the best case, and it's not rational to assume the most likely case is the best.

[romaaeterna]

You misunderstand. Of course it wasn't "a special review unit". It was the randomly selected review unit.

As in any test methodology, if your random sample has problems, it's a bad sign for failure rates for the batch.

[hgoel]

Are these reviewers big enough in the industry for there to be any reason to assume they got a pre-tested vehicle? If not there's absolutely no indication that this failure suggests a higher overall failure rate.