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by newnewpdro 2366 days ago
> you are supposed to call a tow with a blinking light

Citation needed.

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I dunno where you can look it up, probably a modern car manual, but as someone within an entire family of mechanics, ive never heard of a blinking check engine light that didn't mean your shit is seriously fucked up and any second away from blowing apart. In fact blinking check engine lights are pretty new overall to differentiate between shit like 'this light is on because your o2 sensor is going bad' and 'this light is on because only half your motor is getting enough oil', now it blinks with the oil problem so you know it is serious. Although a number of cars these days have completely separate 'service engine' and 'engine warning' lights so a blinking check engine light might not exist for whatever model.

If anything other than your blinker blinks more than a handful of times past startup, something is very very wrong.

thank god there's a second car person around here, it felt lonely.
just open your owner manual, for most cars is standard

steady light: maintenance

flashing for a time: issues on the emissions controls, you risk on the long run to damage the converter or stuff like that

fixed flashing light: something seriously wrong, like a misfire or worse, running the engine is actively damaging it. car runs in protected mode as not to leave you stranded in a dangerous situation, but you are not supposed to run it.

what's your car if I might ask?

Citation from the 2003 SL55 AMG owners manual under "what to do if ... the yellow check engine indicator light comes on"

  Have the vehicle checked as soon as possible by an 
  authorized Mercedes-Benz Center.  An on-board diagnostic 
  connector is used by the service station to link the
  vehicle to the shop diagnostics system. It allows the
  accurate identification of system malfunctions through the 
  readout of diagnostic trouble codes. It is located in the
  front left area of the footwell next to the parking brake.

And this is only after checking the fuel cap and ensuring the fuel tank isn't empty.

They don't recommend towing the vehicle. There are surprisingly few conditions mentioned in the manual where a tow to the service center is recommended: brake system failure indicators, and visibly dangerous tire damage/vibrations.

There is however substantial discussion of towing methods and proper towing procedure, mentioning significant risks of damage when done incorrectly. So we see, towing isn't some kind of panacea the manufacturers are eager to suggest - the process may break things like the transmission or body if done incorrectly, especially over long distances.

It's a noteworthy difference in the failure modes of Teslas (and perhaps EVs in general) vs. conventional ICE vehicles.

ICE vehicle drivetrains often fail more gracefully. The first vehicle I purchased, to rebuild before getting a driver's license, had a broken con-rod, yet it still drove noisily with a hole in the side of the engine block.

ICE vehicle manufacturers do not actively disable a vehicle in a CEL-triggering condition. They want nothing to do with potentially pro-actively stranding someone, which could be a life-or-death situation like a snowstorm, just because some sensor is malfunctioning on an otherwise perfectly operable automobile.

Requiring a tow is a self-evident condition. It's been generally left up to the owner to decide if they want to risk potentially costly repairs driving with an indicator light flashing.