[tl]

My experiences with React / Vue / Angular: server side rendering plus a reasonable refresh interface (LiveView, PJAX, Turbolinks, etc...) wins until you reach the point where native code is a better solution anyway.

JQuery / lodash: we’re slowly getting better about modern browser availability and needing these less, but it’s a long road.

[gherkinnn]

Despite working mainly with TS and React, I almost agree with the first part. There are all to many cases where a minimal setup works just fine. My hope is that such a restrained setup inherently suppresses stupid features nobody asked for. And yet here we are.