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by welly 2369 days ago
The Internet needs to be better than being almost entirely propped up by the advertising industry.

Surely even they know their day will come.

It will, won't it?

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Somehow it will. Not sure when. I tire of Amazon giving me ads to things I already bought. Like someone told me they bought something you usually only buy one of like... Random example: a new toilet or something... No I dont need another one the replacement one was fine enough thank you!
What's worse is the blatent lie of "frequently bought together", where they tell you that people frequently buy three different models of the same item, often different brands. It's like, Amazon thinks that people are completely gullible idiots. Then again . . .
You and me both.

Given everything amazon has on offer in the way of machine learning etc. is their algorithm for promoting items you might want to buy as simplistic as "I see you bought a pair of running shoes! Perhaps you might want another pair of running shoes?".

Come on amazon!

Or worse, you’re looking to sell something that you’d only need once in your life (eg: a PS4), so you list it on eBay, but now you’re getting non-stop ads to buy one.
You're more optimistic than I. Hard to overthrow the industry that specialises in manipulation.
Except they're clearly bad at it. Their biggest success is the hype about how effective their methods are with absolutely no proof.
Advertising's entire model since the beginning has been -- your competitors are doing it, can you afford not to?
It takes a little longer every time someone implies ad blockers are “stealing” or that it’s all ok because “it’s the model”. I completely refuse both of these ideas.
Except this is the case where users have made a large cash purchase, and so have the realistic expectation that they are the paying customer and not a pair of eyeballs to be sold to the highest bidder.
If "their day comes" and we still don't have a cultural shift that involves paying anyone for content except the largest tech companies (e.g. Netflix), then we'll be even worse off.

Though, that Patreon has any traction at all suggests that a shift is happening or at least becoming feasible.

I'm not sure what the alternative is. You can pick up a newspaper for 20p,or a "quality" newspaper for 50p (UK rates). Would I pay 50p a day to browse a news site? At the moment, no, because I can get my news for free elsewhere, with similar political alignment. I feel like I would pay something for really, really good curation and aggregation of news I'm interested in. But not all the time.

It seems subscription is the only alternative to free and I don't want endless subscriptions to news (be it tech news or what's going on in the world). Because it all adds up. I want to be able to buy stories/news etc. ad hoc as I do/did a newspaper rather than being committed to a month subscription where I may not take advantage of it all the time.

Spotify is an example of a service I use frequently but probably don't use it every day and as such I sometimes unsubscribe from it. I'd love to be able to subscribe to it when I'm using it. Say 25p/30c a day (or less ideally).

Sure it may end up coming out costing me more than a monthly subscription but some months it wouldn't because I don't use it all the time.

I'm all for paying for content but all these subscriptions add up.

AWS has got it figured out, to a degree - more so than media companies. Charge for usage.

It depends on whether they are able to cement their "right to exist" as a business model through regulatory capture and other sorts of bullying as is the case with for-profit medical insurers and car dealerships and likely many other things I'm not thinking of.