[klodolph]

This argument gets rehashed in HN pretty often. When I just worked in ops or support my job title had the word “technician” in it. When I was designing systems my job title had the word “engineer” in it, even if I also had ops duties. As far as I can tell this is a regional thing, where certain jurisdictions have laws that regulate who can call themselves engineers, just like certain jurisdictions have laws about who can call themselves hairdressers. That doesn’t stop people on HN from thinking that for some reason, we can all agree on a definition for “engineer”, even though we have regular disagreements about the definition about almost every other word in the English language.

“DevOps” is at least ill-defined from the very start, so if we have arguments about what “DevOps” means, at least I can learn something.