[meddlepal]

I had to go look up Ginkgo... and I'm not sure it's an Apples to Apples comparison. The built-in Go framework for unit testing is great but I don't think I would want to try to write clean BDD tests with it.

Part of the value-prop for Ginkgo is that it gives you a standard BDD DSL which if you're doing BDD is half the battle... describing and testing the behavior with a human-friendly programmatic interface.

On the other hand if none of the team could articulate why they needed Ginkgo that probably means they don't actually know what BDD and your point still stands.

[dillonmckay]

Which, IMHO, would behoove the team to learn BDD conceptually, in order to assess its appropriateness as a tool in any situation.

[quickthrower2]

I’m yet to see BDD used even though I’ve seen BDD frameworks used a lot. BDD frameworks happen to be excellent for unit testing too! They force you to write the testing code to be better because you need to describe each action. I find in normal unit tests developers use shenanigans to shortcut testing something.

[hadiz]

oh yeah absolutely, ginkgo has its use. It was not suited to what we were after, though.