[p0nce]

D practionners aren't really on internet forums, let alone internet forums with a bias for whatever is new and status-enhancing (HN). Because the presumed attacks on D are constant, it's become very tiring to answer that no, it's not dead, and it's growing. The real test is in the trenches, not in a factless debate.

[Someone1234]

You want to talk facts, it ranks so low on Github's usage (based on Github's own API) that it isn't even ranked in the top 25 languages:

https://github.com/benfred/github-analysis/#inferring-langua...

Rust by contrast is 16th and trending upwards year on year. So these D users that are missing from internet forums are also missing from checking in actual code.

You talk about the lack of facts, but I can link you to Stackoverflow's survey, Github's usage, Google Trends, and show you that D isn't doing very well. Where's your facts here? Where is this evidence of a large number of quiet D programmers?

So let's talk facts, I have, your turn.

[iudqnolq]

I have never used D, but possibly developers at boring companies aren't checking in code to public Github repositories?

[p0nce]

TIOBE index. Besides, I'm not interested in being right on HN.

[Someone1234]

TIOBE index shows it in decline. It peaked in 2009 and has fallen since then. It has fallen from 1.8% peak to under 1% (0.93%). Which, even if it was still 1.8% would be terrible for an almost 20 year old language.

I'm not sure how a language that is in decline, and hasn't grown much in its life, isn't a dying language (I'd argue dead at under 1% after that long).

> I'm not interested in being right on HN.

So you show up, call out other posters for having a "factless debate," to which they respond with facts. They then ask you for the same and instead of providing them to prove your point, you're suddenly not interested in a discussion on HN? That seems like bad faith posting to me.

[p0nce]

It seems you have a lot of energy to spend on this online debate, and I do not.