[potatolicious]

I see the word "idea" in your post a lot - and I think that's missing the point by a wide margin. The world is full of good ideas, the real shortage is people capable of making them happen.

Intelligent people avoid non-technical (or even technical, honestly) people who pitch their New Great Idea because 99% of the world has great ideas and zero ability to pull it off. What people are judging you on is not the quality of your idea, so much as your ability and skills to do it.

If you're failing to gain traction with the people you're trying to sign on, maybe your idea is sound, but people simply do not see you as bringing something valuable enough to the table to make it a success.

Whenever I get approached by a non-technical founder about their New Big Thing, my immediate question, bluntly, is: What do you bring to the table?

If you don't have a good, concrete, specific answer (instead of hand-wavy things like "I'm good at marketing"), do not be surprised when competent technical people roll their eyes and wander off.

[jessedhillon]

There's no disagreement on this point; you've changed the subject.

I was taking issue with your characterization that non-technical entrepreneurs are trying to get people to work for free. I think that's an unhelpful way to look at things.

People are not working for free at a startup, they're building equity and increasing the value of the overall enterprise. Except for the case where the original person is actually sleeping or playing golf all day, I don't see how you can seriously propose that some people are genuinely trying to pitch an opportunity where you are doing all the work (and presumably at some companies they've succeeded in getting the techies to do all the work?)

Considering your last statement, I think you need a better way to evaluate the work of people who don't do technical work for a living. What sort of concrete work would a marketer be doing before there's a product? I wouldn't want to work with someone who said they had already printed all the advertising for a product that hasn't even been designed!

[MrFlibble]

Well put.

Everyone thinks their idea is great. That and $2 gets you a cup of coffee.

In my own situation as a non-technical founder I have been in a technical holding pattern for exactly the reason you stated. I ask myself "What do I bring to the table"? The answer is that while lot is coming together, I feel that until those key pieces fall into place it would be inappropriate to ask someone who brings solid technical skills to the table to look at my project.

The question everyone, technical or non-technical, should ask themselves regarding any project is "What do I bring to the table?"