[wholepointofcc]

Here's a list of countries Mexicans (just an example, I know there are people from elsewhere coming in thru y'alls southern border) don't need Visas to enter: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Visa_req...

It literally includes all other countries in the American continent except for Guyana.

Immigrate to these countries instead. Thank me later.

Why would someone illegally immigrate to the USA in this day and age is beyond my comprehension.

[carapace]

The New Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,

With conquering limbs astride from land to land;

Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand

A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame

Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name

Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand

Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command

The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she

With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

[UI_at_80x24]

>Why would someone illegally immigrate to the USA in this day and age is beyond my comprehension.

Specifically to respond to this misconception: ALL of the people from "the caravan", ALL of the parents of the 70,000 children that were locked up and taken away FOLLOWED THE LAW and DID EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE TOLD THEM TO DO. They were seeking asylum and political refuge. They followed our law to receive protection/shelter.

Any other dialog is pure rhetoric and Trump based fear mongering.

[pnw_hazor]

You don't get asylum because of local crime/safety. Also, you are supposed make the claim for asylum at the first country (Mexico) for your claim to hold up.

So most of these recent claims can and should be immediately rejected. There was brief window where Obama's DOJ changed policy and allowed granting asylum for local criminal problems (non-state oppression). Trump's DOJ changed the asylum policy, returning to international norms.

So unless an alien is fleeing state oppression and they have tried to get asylum at the nearest/adjacent non-conflict country, they have no grounds for receiving asylum in the USA.

[GrumpyNl]

Ah, the Trump card.

[wholepointofcc]

> They were seeking asylum and political refuge

Asylum and political refuge? Cause you're poor and from a violent place? Might as well bring in the whole of south America then...

> Any other dialog is pure rhetoric and Trump based fear mongering.

I don't have a horse in this race. I'm a south-American immigrant myself. I didn't vote nor care for y'alls Orange Leader. I just feel personal responsibility shouldn't be downplayed.