[imvetri]

Thanks for sharing.

We kind of waste our time by verifying with science for new surprises. We live for <60 years, we have to manage our time with something that is impactful. So verifying anything with science is not worth our time (thinking -> googling -> starting threads). Instead, simplify the facts and write it down on paper. Keep accumulating your findings, you will come up with your own more connected theories. Occasionally, prove your theories wrong to build a stronger base knowledge.

My message is just a reply for "Is this scientifically verifiable? Of course not, not with current means"

[krageon]

> verifying anything with science is not worth our time

You are apparently long, long overdue a revision of a few history books. It should very quickly become self-evident that it is in fact worth our collective time (and probably our individual time too, as it's a real achievement that everyone benefits from) to perform scientific studies.

[copperx]

> We live for <60 years

What country are you from?

[rimliu]

    > We live for <60 years

That's false. And please hold on with "your own theories". We have too much "fun" with antivaxers already.

[ryanmercer]

I'm not justifying their "boo science, yay debauchery" line of thinking but let us look at the numbers (because I'm curious):

This is for the US, from CDC data, so probably 30-something percent depending on how many were between 60 and 64:

>Totals For 2010: 2,468,435 people of all ages died. About 11.9% aged 25 to 54. 24.5% aged 25 to 64

https://modlinlegal.com/blog/maybe-i-just-won-t-plan/90-the-...

And this https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TO65.MA.ZS

shows numbers kinda all over the place depending on country, depending on where the person is from it may very well be that the majority die before 60-65 in their country.

Angola, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, both Congo, Cote d'Ivorie, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Eswatini, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Haiti, Lesotho, Malawi, Mongolia, Mozambique, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Togo, Uganda, Zambia, Zimbabwe all appear to be under 60% chance (one or two may be at or above, I made the list quickly) of making it to 65 if I'm reading that table correctly.

So, that's about 679 million people using 2017 numbers found via Google so not even 9% of the global population but still, that's roughly a 1 in 12 chance they are from a country where death before 65 is a thing for 40-60% of the population.

Also TIL Nigeria has 191 million people!!! Wow, I would have never come close to that if told to guess.