[surewhynat]

So your big point is that it's all a big "maybe."

Aren't you missing a rather larger point that we're also currently polluting the planet in the process, smog, water tables, rivers, ocean trash, deforestation, excess meat consumption linked to chronic disease?

[WA]

Exactly this. It doesn't matter if climate models are all wrong. Polluting the environment we require to live in is a dumb idea generally speaking. It's as if your house wouldn't have a toilet and you, your family and all guests just take a dump in the living room. It's just a matter of time until smell and diseases spread around your house and make you sick.

[rafa1981]

That we are polluting is beyond doubt. Deforestation, mining, nuclear accidents... all these are real problems that need no additional backing science or guvernamental panels, yet they hardly get the spotlight in mass media compared with Co2 levels. Co2 is reported as the worst problem by politicians to scare us, make us feel guilty and pay.

The degree of overconsumism rooted in our system is hardly environmentally friendly. Yet we want to be environmentally friendly by consuming a new generation of Co2 friendly products, which polluted the planet to be manufactured.

Consuming is the problem, not the solution, but who is going to say in a capitalist system backed by fiat money that is only sustainable by an ever increasing debt that we need to have negative growth and lose some comfort to decrease our footprint?