[devtul]

We might have two possibilities, if the car is sending "I'm alive!" then it's ok, the rep could say they have the vehicle online, maybe the rep wasn't so accurate with his words and said they had the location. But if it's "I'm alive, my coordinates are X, Y" even without an active subscription, then this is a big issue.

[rabeener]

I only have this article to go off of which has the customer service rep saying:

> An employee at a call center operated (or contracted) by Honda reportedly confirmed that they had the vehicle's location, but declined to share it

But even if it’s just pings, the pings have to leverage some sort of network which can be used to establish a general location if not an exact one. That’s still too much for me.