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by JumpCrisscross 2388 days ago
> it's easy enough to look up a police departments phone number and call back, should one want to verify they're actually taking to the police

This requires staff, training and monitoring to prevent abuse. When done, it introduces liability. It's reasonable to ask to be compensated for all that.
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beerandt 2388 days ago
Complying with police and/or court orders is a cost of doing business. If your business subjects you to that beyond a trivial amount, the cost needs to be otherwise built-in to your business plan.

Especially if you're a multi-billion dollar conglomerate. They can't exactly claim ignorance like a start-up might.

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JumpCrisscross 2388 days ago
> Complying with police and/or court orders is a cost of doing business

If the police present a warrant, yes. Everything else is customer service.

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mlyle 2388 days ago
Option 1: comply with LE+owner's request; they have a chance to recover vehicle; costs are low and bad PR is avoided.

Option 2: don't comply with LE+owner's request; deal with later warrant at higher cost (now you have compliance & legal involved); vehicle is not recovered, bad PR is obtained, and everyone loses.

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JumpCrisscross 2388 days ago
> Option 1: comply with LE+owner's request; they have a chance to recover vehicle; costs are low and bad PR is avoided

Consequence 1b: you released tracking information to a stalker. They fooled your rep into thinking police were involved. Not only do you have a PR nightmare, you've also opened yourself up to legal liability.

I'm not arguing this is the right balance. Finding that balance depends on branding, legal and financial factors. But it's not an unreasonable position.

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mlyle 2388 days ago
> They fooled your rep into thinking police were involved.

This is why you have policy for appropriate response and organizational escalation in place if necessary. Not hard to contact the department in question via another directory and verify the request.

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yabadabadoes 2388 days ago
Not giving data to police without a warrant who have a story about the owner is competence.

There are a significant number of frauds committed by police (using official resources to stalk, bully, or sell information) and they are caught and prosecuted only when people don't help them bypass things the system can reasonably audit.

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