[Diederich]

> I had a seamless time using wireguard (via a streisand installation) ...

I've been using Wireguard via https://github.com/trailofbits/algo for a while now. Of all of the VPN experiences over the last couple of decades, Wireguard has been light-years ahead of the rest.

First: it's fast. If the server is up and you don't have packet loss, you can't tell when it is turned on. For fun, I wrote some trivial automation to automatically and randomly switch between a few wireguard back ends, and I generally can't detect it.

Second: it's easy. For me, an experienced technical user. I don't know enough about the ecosystem to recommend it to less technical people, though given how basically sound it is, I'll be surprised if there aren't really easy and robust front-ends coming up.

[mendelmaleh]

Third: it doesn't wreck my battery life, like others do.

I've been using now wireguard for the past two years, really happy with it!

[jedberg]

> Second: it's easy.

To give you some perspective, it's so easy that my four year old knows how to turn it on when we're traveling and she wants to watch PBS Kids.

[nullbyte]

But can your 4 year old set up Wireguard on a Debian server?

Psh, didn't think so. Amateur.

[jedberg]

Her first desktop interface will be a command line, so after she learns to spell, give her a year. :P

[SkyRocknRoll]

my 4-year-old son learns English using sheLL :)

[jedberg]

Now I'm wondering if sheLL is a special thing or if you just held the shift key down by accident. Sadly you can't easily do a case sensitive search so I can't figure it out.

But either way, that seems like a good idea.

[iudqnolq]

At the terminal with wg-quick, in NetworkManager, on a phone? Just wondering how impressive your kid is.

[tptacek]

On my Macbook there's a drop-down menu hanging off a menu bar icon. I feel like I could definitely show a little kid how to get themselves on the VPN.

[iudqnolq]

I didn't know that. Ubuntu user.

[jedberg]

iPhone. But the desktop is super easy too.