[hjkhtroeiupwq]

You can think of various ways to fast track justice for small crimes, similar to small claims court. You don't need a jury trial for an obvious bike theft.

But you don't even need to get to this stage. If you have 99% conviction rate, people will just stop doing crime, starting with the ones for which crime was just a marginal thing anyway (maybe even for the adrenaline rush), and as a result you'll have even fewer crimes to prosecute. It's a positive feed-back loop.

And you don't need to put people in prison. Something like China's social credit is coming everywhere. Steal a bike, you pay double for everything.

[mindfulhack]

You make a compelling case, and at first it's terrifying, but then I know we humans are always terrified of change no matter what it is (e.g. 'music is dead' at the arrival of recorded sound), and also I wonder if we overpraise the 'natural order' of human behaviour as opposed to future potential worlds.

I am a freedom-fighter, yes, and I hate conformity, yes, but the current evolutionary survivalness of humans is also very ugly. (E.g. the selfish drive to steal a bike.) I don't have a solution, just thinking openly.

[heavyset_go]

> If you have 99% conviction rate, people will just stop doing crime

You should take a look at DAs conviction rates sometime. Federal conviction rates are 99.8% in the US.

[larnmar]

I’m not sure what the denominator is there, but it’s not all crimes committed.

[heavyset_go]

It's all criminal cases that went before a judge.

[superkuh]

Japan's conviction rate is 99.9%. https://www.nippon.com/en/japan-topics/c05401/order-in-the-c...

[jki275]

That's because they only arrest guilty people.

[Scoundreller]

Aka they always convict arrested people.

[jki275]

But of course.

[hamms]

> If you have 99% conviction rate, people will just stop doing crime

Do you have any information to support this claim?

[hjkhtroeiupwq]

> While a stolen bike probably isn't that valuable, what matters is that in most places, there's basically no chances that you will be caught.

> And I'm not kidding about the absence of enforcement and low risk of stealing bikes. Here's a NYT journalist filming himself stealing his own bike in New York City to see how people who see him will react. You gotta see this to believe it. He even uses powertools and does it near cops.

https://www.treehugger.com/bikes/underworld-economics-what-h...