[aspett]

> ...y'know what I find particularly nuts about this whole thing? That we only know about it because of that location icon in the status bar

It seems to me like discovering this from that status bar icon is a _good_ thing. It gives me more faith that the system isn't hiding particular types of calls from the user; that it's tying the system call to the icon being present.

[Wowfunhappy]

Oh, the fact that researchers did find this absolutely speaks well of Apple! Although, there's a sort of confirmation bias here—if there's some other situation where requests go out and the icon never appears, we wouldn't know about it.

[ProfessorLayton]

Yes and no. One of the results of iPhone 4's "antennagate" is that Apple changed the way the phone signal is displayed. They changed the algorithm, and made the signal bars more prominent in low signal situations [1]

I'm not suggesting they will change its behavior, but it wouldn't be unprecedented if they did.

EDIT: Changed the video start time to specific reference.

[1] https://youtu.be/b9eXYOA8TCk?t=672

[hombre_fatal]

That was the first time I actually watched that conference.

Steve Jobs presents a convincing case. It's now clear to me that the media hyped up a non-issue, or at least one that was ubiquitous across the state of the art at the time. And Apple's response is perfectly reasonable.

What exactly is your problem with his explanation of the changes?

[ProfessorLayton]

I have no problem or strong opinion regarding iPhone 4's antenna debacle, I'm only referencing what has happened in the past about issues hyped by the media, and how Apple has handled them.

iPhone 4/4s remain my favorite iPhone generations to date.

[lilyball]

Isn't that because previously it was just a measure of signal strength and wasn't a good measure of data quality / latency / bandwidth? A proper signal meter takes both strength and noise into account.

[0xffff2]

Where exactly in that 27 minutes long video are we supposed to be looking?