[autoexec]

Police get actual user data when users agree to submit video to them, they know that requests are sent to every user within a certain range of the location they choose, and they often know exactly who has the cameras installed in that area (because the cameras were sold/installed by them or purchased using taxpayer-funded discount programs or just by driving past and looking at the doors). If you refuse to share the data but most of your neighbors do it would not be hard for them to narrow down which houses didn't.

[ehsankia]

So you're saying that the cops are spending all their time driving down every street in the neighborhood, memorizing the position of Ring cameras, then correlating those with videos they received and eliminating until they pin point the one house that refused to share the video, all for what? I can understand general paranoia about the police but that's some next level tin-foil hat stuff.

[autoexec]

They don't have to drive down the street to memorize the locations of ring cams. They already know who has them. Hell, amazon gave them a map (https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/2019-12-03-amazon-ring-v...). I don't think every police officer is going to take the time to track down every camera over a package thief, but I do agree with the EFF that it'd be very very easy for police to take note of individuals and neighborhoods who habitually refuse to give them video and that any interactions with them could be influenced by a perception that they are "uncooperative" or "unsupportive of the police"

[ehsankia]

The article you link isn't a primary source, it links back to your previous CNET article, which explicitly says it's a heat map and specific location is not given. Welcome to shitty "tech" journalism playing the telephone game. You start with a pretty tame report, and 2-3 articles down the line, Ring is suddenly giving your new born baby to the government.

Nowhere in the original there's talk of giving user location, yet Yahoo someone starts talking of "detailed map of doorbell installation", for whatever definition of "detailed".

[autoexec]

From that CNET article:

"the heat map showed police where Ring cameras are concentrated: the darker the shade, the more the cameras. But when zoomed in, it would show light circles around individual locations,"

It also links to other cases where maps of cameras were sent to police by amazon such as the one shown here:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/aug/29/ring-amaz...