[ehsankia]

The first two have much more to do with NSA just having too much unilateral access (re: Snowden leaks) than anything Ring specific. I guess it can be argued that any company that collects any data whatsoever is making NSA more data rich, but what's the alternative, but again the root issue there lies with the US government itself.

As for the third one, I'm not sure what your point is. The specific article only speaks of a heatmap of doorbells. The article also states the the precise location of the doorbell isn't even given, let alone footage.

I don't think anyone considers that data to be anywhere equal to giving access to video feed. You can simply drive down the road and see which houses have a Ring doorbell, or probably even detect them sniffing packets.

[antris]

> I guess it can be argued that any company that collects any data whatsoever is making NSA more data rich, but what's the alternative, but again the root issue there lies with the US government itself.

Buying less "on the cloud by default" devices and using encryption.

[ehsankia]

Your first point is fair, though, again, you can't completely ignore the utility these services bring. And while it is possible to have Cloud-less alternatives, not everyone is a Hackernews type person that can setup local opensource alternative on a linux box in their spare time.

Your latter point doesn't really make sense. I'm fairly sure all of these devices use encryption to the cloud, it's just that the NSA has access to the unencrypted data on the cloud itself, theoretically. Unless you mean storing your own encrypted data on the cloud, which again goes back to the point above.