[izacus]

> You can't make a security feature with a backdoor, or it's not security feature anymore.

Why are you so 100% sure that there's no way that Apple could design a system to keep it secure and allow recycling? There's hundreds of ways they could design their security flow where recycling is possible.

[gruez]

>Why are you so 100% sure that there's no way that Apple could design a system to keep it secure and allow recycling? There's hundreds of ways they could design their security flow where recycling is possible.

Can you list some of them? How would you prevent unscrupulous recylers from turning into fences for stolen macs?

[FarAdvance4]

Not even just the recycling business owner. Hire Joe over here, he works there, learns the systems and how to unlock the devices legitimately.

What happens when he leaves, or is fired, or decides he's going to make some side money...

[shkkmo]

You have a system that allows the recycler to indirectly contact the device owner and offer them a choice of having the device returned or a small iTunes credit provided in return for the device being unlocked.

Everyone wins. More stolen devices returned less electronic waste in the landfill.

[jedberg]

> Why are you so 100% sure that there's no way that Apple could design a system to keep it secure and allow recycling?

Math. Math tells me that is impossible. It's basic cryptography. Adding a second key that someone else has makes it inherently insecure.

[faitswulff]

I guess my point in my response to your other comment was that iCloud already has a second key.