[jassmith87]

Seed and Series A is investment in the people always. They assume if the product doesn't work the team will pivot until they find something that does. It sounds to me like your friend failed to pivot when needed.

[tenpies]

Not even. I'm seeing seed and series As/Bs on unproven teams of recent graduates with no experience in the field where the "start up" operates. No business plan, no prototype, huge regulatory walls to climb.

It is worst than tulip mania.

[nikanj]

Funds make money on failed investments too. I'd be happy to throw away someone else's money, if I got to keep 20% as a management fee - and a slice of the profits in case one of my lottery tickets is a winner.

[shagbag]

Typically they'd get 2% of assets under management, not 20%.

[zhoujianfu]

2% a year for 10 years..

[gnaritas]

Which is about 18% of the original investment, not 20, assuming no gains or losses.

[x0x0]

Dude. Conflating seed (median $2.1m 18q4) rounds with B (probably 10x that) rounds is... not serious.

[jiofih]

Look closer at the news, it’s not uncommon to see 10M+ rounds for companies that haven’t put out a single ounce of product.

[x0x0]

I'm sure you've got a list of 50 or 100 examples handy?

[streetcat1]

Where? Can you give an example?