[rubbingalcohol]

> “It is expected behavior that the Location Services icon appears in the status bar when Location Services is enabled. The icon appears for system services that do not have a switch in Settings.”

My question then is WHY? If they allow granular control over some location collection settings, but not others, and the only way to disable background collection is to turn location off entirely, then doesn't this defeat the purpose of offering granular control at all? What possible reason could there be for having it set up this way?

In my ideal scenario, Maps would have location access when open or navigating but nothing else.

[DangerousPie]

Your use case may be different but personally I just want to make sure that untrustworthy third party apps (Facebook, random games, etc) don't get location access. I'm fine with Apple services having access. So for me the way it is right now does everything I need.

[soperj]

> I'm fine with Apple services having access.

Why?

[inopinatus]

Some folks (myself included) by default prefer to segment their trust by vendor, not by application, since it tends to be aligned anyway. For example, as per GP I'm fine with any Apple app having location access because by buying the phone I made an implicit decision to trust the company. In contrast, Facebook's stuff can fuck off into the black hole of mistrust they dug for themselves.

Finer granularity of trust (+ve or -ve) occurs only in exceptional cases.

As with so much in life (and in tech), the greatest process efficiency occurs when you standardise a common case and manage by exception.

[jaywalk]

Because they provide a very real value. "Find my iPhone" for instance.

[earenndil]

I would still like to have the ability to examine and toggle them each individually. Currently what I do is to turn on location services when I want to use a map app, and turn them back off once I'm done. But this is inconvenient.

[notnap]

what services would you like to keep location turned on then? Why do you trust them to have access all the time and at the same time you don't trust apple themselves for useful features like "find my phone"?

[rubbingalcohol]

Still doesn't answer why some Apple services have granular control and others don't. The implication in offering the controls is that you could control how the phone uses location data. Excluding some services from the controls negates the value of having controls at all.