[idonotknowwhy]

> mainstream society marginalizes vegan choices

Do you encounter this sort of thing outside of the internet? I've certainly seen online trolls mock vegans, etc but I haven't witnessed it IRL.

At work for example, we always make sure we go to places which accomodate those on Vegan diets.

> If you want the mainstream to embrace your values you don't want to damage the chances of increasing acceptance

Is this what Vegans want though? For the Vegans I know, they don't try to get us to embrace vegan values, they simply stick to their diets quietly.

[etu]

> Do you encounter this sort of thing outside of the internet? I've certainly seen online trolls mock vegans, etc but I haven't witnessed it IRL.

I'm a vegan. I've been invited to eat at steak houses in work related setting. And people know about these limits. And I'm not alone in that camp here.

[ianai]

I get “the talk” multiple times per week from coworkers. I don’t tell people what I think about their dietary choices if I were to eat them. That’s an endless fight that I don’t want nor seek to win.

Though I will get opinionated if they microwave fish or shellfish in the microwave that’s less than 10 feet from my head! That’s a shared space thing though and they have multiple microwave options. They’re just lazy.

[idonotknowwhy]

I'm not a vegan, but I'd have a huge problem with that as well!

[kaikai]

You pointed out a way that vegan people are marginalized in your own comment, when you mentioned needing to seek out places that can accommodate vegan diets. The fact that many restaurants don’t have menu items suitable for vegan means that vegan are indeed marginalized, even if you’re kind to you coworkers and try to compensate for it.

[wooger]

They aren't marginalised as people, they're marginalised because the world does not have to adjust to people's arbitrary diet restrictions.

If I decided that I only wanted to eat blue M&Ms and took offense at getting a packet with them mixed with the other colours (sorry, cross contaminated), it would be unreasonable to expect the manufacturer to make blue only packs to suit me, or to expect shops to start stocking them.

[idonotknowwhy]

> The fact that many restaurants don’t have menu items suitable for vegan means that vegan are indeed marginalized, even if you’re kind to you coworkers and try to compensate for it.

I disagree with this. A steakhouse is expected to serve steak, a Korean BBQ, korean bbq, and a those juice bars are expected to serve fruit smoothies etc.

I follow the keto diet, and we need to make sure any places we go have options for me too (a lot don't). That doesn't mean I'm marginalized though.

The thing I do have a problem with (on behalf of vegans, even though I'm not one) is when a restaurant says they have "Vegan options" or are "Vegan Friendly", and then it's just a disgusting garden salad.