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by NieDzejkob 2402 days ago
> LibreOffice absolutely chokes when I try to do any filtering or calculations.

File a bug. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/

It's easy to complain in an HN comment, but a clear description of the test case would certainly help with getting the issue resolved.

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I wish this comment was banned from HN. Every time someone says that some free software is in any way flawed there's always the completely useless reply "well did you file a bug?" or even worse "it's open source - why didn't you fix it?"

I'd hope it's obvious why these comments are bad, but I guess not so:

* Not everyone has time to fix a bug or even file one.

* The ability to fix or file bugs doesn't mean that the bugs don't exist!

* The ability to fix or file bugs doesn't mean that one shouldn't talk about the bugs.

* The possibility of fixing a bug doesn't help if you don't have the time or ability to fix it and actually want to use the software.

* Not everyone is able to fix all bugs

* It's not nearly as easy for people outside a project to fix bugs as it is for people familiar with the code.

* Everyone already knows it is possible to file and fix bugs in open source software so you're not adding anything to the conversation.

Specially because you usually have to jump through a lot of hoops to file a bug. I remember some time ago trying to file a bug for some major open source software. It was so painful that I gave up before finishing.
Without context, it was likely painful as they need that information to have any chance of fixing the bug.
I don’t mind collecting useful information, it’s the having to create accounts on some hard-to-navigate project-owned bug tracking thing that kills it for me.
There's a word for people who expect to get things for free without giving anything back to the authors or community that made it possible.
There's also a phrase for people who give things away for free and expect something in return.
Could you point me at the paid for equivalent for excel on Linux? If he donated even a thousand dollars he wouldn't get the product he can get for almost free on windows.
Doesn't Excel run under Wine? That might actually be the better option.

(LibreOffice user here on Windows, donated in the past, but I find LibreOffice Calc really unpolished. It puzzles me because NeoOffice is really quite good on the Mac. I should probably just switch to MS Office.)

Certain versions yep :) . Although I'm not sure it's flawless. Crossover office is best if you're going down that route, or just put windows in a VM and run it there if it's crucial to your work. That's what I do.
This just turns Foss into the inferior but free option, and I don't think that was the intention.
And since you mentioned you'd pay for Excel, please contribute a one-time life-time $50-$100 bounty to help fix that performance issue.
Would this hypothetical fix include a performance suite, and a regression testing system, to ensure this task stays fast forever?

IME, systems that don't focus on performance as a primary metric tend to slow down over time as they accumulate features. Someone who is willing to buy Excel ($130) may not be willing to pay a $100 bounty every time some other programmer makes LibreOffice slower again.

I googled for LibreOffice performance regressions and found several, going back many years, and they tend to include a one-line fix. For all its faults, I'm sure there's a team at Microsoft that knows every time Excel performance regresses.

Good point. How can one prevent this though, for any free/open source software? Introducing issues (intentional or careless) to keep some funding going.