[sedatk]

They reverted some of the things because the paradigms around them have changed, such as "running applications". That paradigm is dead on iOS and Android and is slowly dying on desktop operating systems too. We're getting over the times when we have to carefully consider which apps we should be running to conserve memory, CPU etc. That's not something users should be thinking about.

Modern equivalent of the Start Menu is still the start menu. When you click on it, it shows a list of applications available on the system. Shut down is also the nearest available option there.

So, I disagree with your sentiment that Windows 10 has rolled back good ideas. Windows 10 is simply the best Windows to date ever in all aspects.

[xyzzy_plugh]

The problem is that it is worse. The system begins guessing what users want, and that means the system will be wrong. It often is.

For example, on my Pixel 3, Spotify is terminated if I open the camera app around 80% of the time. Is it a resource issue? Who knows! The system gives me no insight.

Is this what users really want? I'm very doubtful.

[JohnFen]

> Windows 10 is simply the best Windows to date ever in all aspects.

Wow.

My opinion is very, very different. The best Windows to date, in my opinion, in Win 7. I even consider Win 95 to be better than Win 10.

[Asooka]

But have there been long and deep usability studies with users from all ages and experiences to determine if this is the most comfortable and easiest to use system? Or did Steve Jobs go on stage, show the iPhone tailored to his preferences and usage style and then everyone copied that? Because I kind of feel like the systems you describe are doing little more than cargo-cult programming mixed with envy for whatever is "cool" at the time.