[kraigie]

>manager-types try to come up with metrics to measure programmer productivity.

Plenty can. The CFO types look at profit per commit/schedule whatever.

A lot of middle managment types look at activity per commit.

The real issue here is that mangement by productivity data. Means most management is deadweight that can be replaced by a spreedsheet with the ability to send form emails to those falling behind on the metrics.

Anywhere else would be downsized, but management has enough power go protect it's own existence at the expense of the company.