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by dkersten 2408 days ago
He also spreads misinformation.

EDIT: Ok, I suppose I should back my claim up.

Joe Rogan has pushed the “DMT is produced in our pineal gland” narrative, but there is no evidence to back this up. I’ll report a comment I made elsewhere and also link a separate reddit discussion which cites various sources. I will note that, in fairness to Joe, he said this a while ago, so perhaps he’s not so quick to jump the gun now, I don’t know, I don’t listen to his podcasts, but perhaps he’s better now.

“We all have it in our bodies” — This is an often repeated myth that has never been proven. The myth originates from Rick Strassman’s work, who himself has said that he only detected a precursor, not DMT itself and that everything else he wrote about it was hypothetical speculation. There have, apparently, been recent studies that found DMT synthesised in rat brains, but it has not yet been proven whether this translates to humans or not. Cognitive neuroscientist Dr. Indre Viskontas stated that while DMT shares a similar molecular structure to seritonin and melatonin, there is no evidence that it is made inside the brain. Similarly, Dr. Bryan Yamamoto of the neurosciencedepartment at the University of Toledo said: “I know of no evidence that DMT is produced anywhere in the body. It’s chemical structure us similar to serotonin and melatonin, but their endogenous actions are very different from DMT.”

This reddit discussion also links various sources, although I didn’t check them all myself: https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/mwz2h/dmt_has_nev...

1 comments

There is a difference between the current politicized phrase "spreading misinformation" and being wrong.

Anyone who speaks on the record about their hobbies for thousands of hours will say some things that are incorrect. He might not understand something, and he is usually pretty humble about his knowledge level.

But "spreading misinformation" is something that people do because they are intentionally misleading others, or have something to gain.

I don't think he is benefiting much from the pineal gland narrative. And it sounds like from the information you cited, it may even be correct, even if its premature to state it as fact.

That’s fair, thanks for pointing it out. I’ll be more careful with how I express such things in future.

Regarding the pineal gland, it might be true, but it hasn’t been proven and multiple neuroscientists have stated that while DMT is similar to compounds found in the brain, it still functions quite differently and they have never seen any evidence to suggest that DMT exists in our bodies. There was a study finding it in mice brains, so it may still turn out that we have it in ours, but it’s definitely premature to make any such assumptions and definitely premature to repeat the trope.