[WhiskeyJack55]

What if the question isn't one of capability, but a question of self selection and preference?

Does those things even play a role? If yes, how does that play a role? How large of a role? If it does play a role, why? What's important to women in career choice vs what's important to men? Why is that the case? Is it nature or nurture or both (and to what degree of each influence those choices)? Is it upbringing? Is it pressure from society? Is it barrier's to entry? And to what degree does all that play a role?

I see the potential for a much more nuanced conversation with this topic.

Saying women aren't capable of being a programmer or being successful in STEM is in my mind a garbage assertion.

[commandlinefan]

> Saying women aren't capable of being a programmer or being successful in STEM is in my mind a garbage assertion.

Good, then, that nobody has said, or even implied, that.

[rurp]

That's literally the argument that sgslo was countering. I agree that it does not seem like the most charitable position to argue against though.

[commandlinefan]

That isn't even remotely what the person that sgslo was arguing with said.

[barry-cotter]

Propensity to enjoy a job != capability to do the job

[WhiskeyJack55]

...maybe I misunderstood this statement then.

"That's because the issue of men vs women in programming really is an all-or-nothing topic."

Was there subtext I missed?