[retpirato]

The problem is that Apple has always claimed ios provides more privacy (& security) than android, but that's irrelevant if you don't make sure your users are capable of finding the settings. Apple has always marketed to people who are (at least perceived to be) largely tech illiterate (while claiming you have to be extremely tech savvy to use android which is a lie), so if they view their users that way they should make sure those settings are easy to find.

[ogre_codes]

Android phones pump tons of location info and usage info direct to one of the biggest advertising companies in the world. On top of that, a fair number of Android phones ship with third party spyware and outright malware which cannot be uninstalled.

The iPhone is a lot better for privacy by default. It's just not as good as it should be, and I do agree it's not as good as their claims suggest.

[lonelappde]

Question is, does it matter if my barn comes with a door that only closes half way, and your barn comes with a door that closes most of the way?

[jonas21]

It depends how on how wide your horses are.

In other words, it depends on whether the difference in information leakage is information you actually care about.

[desyerious]

There’s also the difference between privacy and anonymity.

Apple has tools in place for privacy, but none for anonymity. For example, requiring a full name and physical address to sign up for the App Store (Microsoft, despite all it’s telemetry, let’s you install apps from their store without an account).

I’ve heard suggestions to give Apple a fake name/address, but what if they start verifying like Facebook by requiring government issued ID?

Worst is new iCloud accounts now require a phone number for verification.

[saagarjha]

Ideally the settings would be configured in such a way that people wouldn’t have to dig through them to have it like they wanted it: it’d be set that way by default. iOS’s usually much better than Android is at this.